﻿{"id":4448,"date":"2018-02-20T14:13:27","date_gmt":"2018-02-20T13:13:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.adhara.sk\/?page_id=4448"},"modified":"2018-11-07T18:14:17","modified_gmt":"2018-11-07T17:14:17","slug":"kamarastvo-medzi-muzom-a-zenou","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/www.adhara.sk\/?page_id=4448","title":{"rendered":"Kamar\u00e1stvo medzi mu\u017eom a \u017eenou"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_4446\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"width: 300px\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.adhara.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/people-3163879_640.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-4446\" src=\"http:\/\/www.adhara.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/people-3163879_640-300x198.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"198\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.adhara.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/people-3163879_640-300x198.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.adhara.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/people-3163879_640.jpg 640w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">Zdroj: <a href=\"https:\/\/pixabay.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Pixabay<\/a><\/p><\/div>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">M\u00f4\u017ee medzi mu\u017eom a \u017eenou existova\u0165 \u010dist\u00e9 kamar\u00e1tstvo? Alebo e\u0161te lep\u0161ie medzi nezadan\u00fdm heterosexu\u00e1lnym mu\u017eom a nezadanou heterosexu\u00e1lnou \u017eenou? To je t\u00e9ma, na ktor\u00fa sa viedlo nespo\u010detne ve\u013ea diskusi\u00ed. Na jednej strane st\u00e1li odporcovia, v\u017edy mu\u017ei, ktor\u00ed sa du\u0161ovali, \u017ee nie. Na druhej strane argumentovali najm\u00e4 \u017eeny, \u017ee predsa ony u\u017e dobr\u00fdch kamar\u00e1tov dlh\u00e9 roky maj\u00fa. Vo svetle ich sk\u00fasenost\u00ed mi preto pripad\u00e1 zvl\u00e1\u0161tne, \u017ee mu\u017ei v argument\u00e1cii na\u010falej pokra\u010dovali. Ak existuje d\u00f4kaz \u2013 ak existuje aspo\u0148 jedno tak\u00e9 kamar\u00e1tstvo \u2013 na\u010do s\u00fa ak\u00e9ko\u013evek \u010fal\u0161ie argumenty?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Z \u00favodn\u00e9ho odstavca je asi jasn\u00e9, ak\u00fd postoj m\u00e1m k tejto t\u00e9me ja. V neexistenciu \u010dist\u00e9ho kamar\u00e1tstva medzi pohlaviami neveria len t\u00ed, \u010do ho neza\u017eili. A t\u00fdch, \u010do ho za\u017eili, je to\u013eko, \u017ee ich \u0165a\u017eko mo\u017eno hodi\u0165 do jednej kateg\u00f3rie s t\u00fdmi, \u010do \u201eza\u017eili\u201c \u00fanosy mimozem\u0161\u0165anmi \u010di stretnutia s duchmi. Hoci sa st\u00e1le n\u00e1jdu \u010fal\u0161\u00ed mu\u017ei, ktor\u00ed bud\u00fa tvrdi\u0165, \u017ee v\u0161etci t\u00ed \u013eudia s d\u00f4kazmi \u017eij\u00fa v blude a v skuto\u010dnosti je ich kamar\u00e1t do nich ne\u0161\u0165astne a dokonale skryto zamilovan\u00fd. Alebo bude, len po\u010dkajte.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Ale pozrime sa aj na argumenty. To, \u017ee tak\u00e9to kamar\u00e1tstvo by bolo proti pr\u00edrode, neobstoj\u00ed. Ve\u010f ko\u013eko je medzi nami \u013eud\u00ed, \u010do v\u00f4bec nechc\u00fa ma\u0165 deti, a dokonca ani to nie je proti pr\u00edrode. U nijak\u00e9ho \u017eivo\u010d\u00ed\u0161neho druhu sa nerozmno\u017eia \u00faplne v\u0161etci jeho jedinci. A kamar\u00e1ti mu\u017e a \u017eena sa mno\u017ei\u0165 predsa m\u00f4\u017eu chcie\u0165, len nie s t\u00fdmto konkr\u00e9tnym partnerom. Tak\u00fdchto pr\u00edpadov tie\u017e n\u00e1jdeme v pr\u00edrode habadej \u2013 u mnoh\u00fdch, ak nie v\u0161etk\u00fdch cicav\u010d\u00edch druhov neexistuje ochota k p\u00e1reniu \u00faplne ka\u017ed\u00e9ho samca s \u00faplne ka\u017edou samicou. Tak pre\u010do by to pr\u00e1ve u \u010dloveka, druhu s jedn\u00fdm s najmen\u0161\u00edm mno\u017estvom potomkov a robiacim jedny z najv\u00e4\u010d\u0161\u00edch drah\u00f4t oh\u013eadom mno\u017eenia, malo by\u0165 inak?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">M\u00f4j n\u00e1zor ale nie je a\u017e tak\u00fd vyhraden\u00fd, ako by sa mohlo zda\u0165. Lep\u0161ie povedan\u00e9, u\u017e tak\u00fd nie je. Lebo na jednej strane je tu fakt, \u017ee som sa v\u017edy viac kamar\u00e1tila s mu\u017emi ako so \u017eenami, u\u017e od \u010dias puberty som si mala s mu\u017emi viac \u010do poveda\u0165. Na druhej strane ale mus\u00edm prizna\u0165, \u017ee drviv\u00e1 v\u00e4\u010d\u0161ina t\u00fdchto kamar\u00e1tstiev dlho nevydr\u017eala. Na\u0161li sa v\u0161ak aj v\u00fdnimky \u2013 jedno, ktor\u00e9 trvalo vy\u0161e dvan\u00e1s\u0165 rokov a druh\u00e9, ktor\u00e9 zatia\u013e pretrv\u00e1va sedem rokov. A to u\u017e je, mysl\u00edm, celkom dos\u0165. A rozpadli sa mi aj kamar\u00e1tstva so \u017eenami, tak\u017ee \u0165a\u017eko mo\u017eno vinu automaticky hodi\u0165 na pohlavie.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Ot\u00e1zka teda sk\u00f4r znie, \u010di existuje trvalo udr\u017eate\u013en\u00e9 kamar\u00e1tstvo medzi mu\u017eom a \u017eenou. Z m\u00f4jho poh\u013eadu tomu ni\u010d nebr\u00e1ni. Overila som si u\u017e toti\u017e dlhoro\u010dn\u00fdmi sk\u00fasenos\u0165ami s viacer\u00fdmi mu\u017emi, \u017ee ak ma mu\u017e nepri\u0165ahoval od prv\u00e9ho poh\u013eadu, neza\u010dal ma pri\u0165ahova\u0165 v\u00f4bec nikdy. A celkom by ma udivilo, keby to mu\u017ei mali inak. S prib\u00fadaj\u00facimi rokmi \u013eudia opeknie\u0165 nezvykn\u00fa. A ke\u010f\u017ee mu\u017ei viac baz\u00edruj\u00fa na v\u00fdzore, \u0165a\u017eko uveri\u0165, \u017ee starn\u00faca kamar\u00e1tka sa v ich o\u010diach za\u010dne meni\u0165 z popolu\u0161ky na princezn\u00fa (iba\u017ee by i\u0161lo o obdobie dospievania, kedy e\u0161te roky na kr\u00e1se prid\u00e1vaj\u00fa). Aj ke\u010f ch\u00e9mia nie je len o fyzickom vzh\u013eade, je dos\u0165 aj o \u0148om. A keby aj v\u00f4bec o v\u00fdzore nebola, MHC molekuly, ktor\u00e9 s\u00fa pod\u013ea v\u00fdskumov zodpovedn\u00e9 za to, \u017ee n\u00e1m partner \u201evonia\u201c, sa vekom nijako nemenia. \u010ci\u017ee ak boli na danom jedincovi nepr\u00ed\u0165a\u017eliv\u00e9 od za\u010diatku, nemaj\u00fa by\u0165 pre\u010do pr\u00ed\u0165a\u017elivej\u0161ie s postupuj\u00facim starnut\u00edm. Do \u00favahy teda prich\u00e1dza jedine pr\u00ed\u0165a\u017elivos\u0165, ktor\u00e1 bola od prv\u00e9ho kontaktu, ale jeden \u010di obaja \u010dlenovia dvojice by ju pred sebou starostlivo skr\u00fdvali (ale pre\u010do?).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Nech je tak \u010di onak, ak po\u010dujem mu\u017ea pri osobnom rozhovore vyhl\u00e1si\u0165, \u017ee kamar\u00e1tstvo medzi mu\u017eom a \u017eenou neexistuje, ihne\u010f spozorniem. To sa d\u00e1 toti\u017e prelo\u017ei\u0165 len ako \u201eak s tebou nebudem ma\u0165 sex, nechcem ma\u0165 s tebou do\u010dinenia ni\u010d\u201c. Je smutn\u00e9, \u017ee s\u00fa mu\u017ei, pod\u013ea ktor\u00fdch je sex jedin\u00e9, \u010do im \u017eena m\u00f4\u017ee pon\u00faknu\u0165. Alebo jemnej\u0161ie povedan\u00e9 \u2013 ktor\u00ed sa o to, \u010do \u017eena m\u00f4\u017ee pon\u00faknu\u0165, zauj\u00edmaj\u00fa len vtedy, ak je to v jednom bal\u00ed\u010dku so sexom. \u017de o \u017eenu ako kamar\u00e1tku ani nestoja. To mne ako monogamne zalo\u017eenej osobe (\u00e1no, monogamnej e\u0161te aj s troma kr\u00ed\u017eikmi na chrbte) ve\u013ea mo\u017enost\u00ed ned\u00e1va.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_4447\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"width: 300px\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.adhara.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/men-2425121_640.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-4447\" src=\"http:\/\/www.adhara.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/men-2425121_640-300x200.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.adhara.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/men-2425121_640-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.adhara.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/men-2425121_640.jpg 640w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">Zdroj: <a href=\"https:\/\/pixabay.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Pixabay<\/a><\/p><\/div>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">By\u0165 kamar\u00e1tkou s mu\u017eom je v\u0161ak n\u00e1ro\u010dnej\u0161ie ako so \u017eenou. Nie v\u0161ak kv\u00f4li odli\u0161nosti pohlav\u00ed, ale kv\u00f4li okoliu. Aby som nebr\u00fdzgala len na mu\u017eov, probl\u00e9my mi v tejto oblasti sp\u00f4sobovali aj neveriace \u017eeny. Viacero kamar\u00e1tov sa so mnou rozl\u00fa\u010dilo (v lep\u0161om pr\u00edpade, v hor\u0161om len n\u00e1hle preru\u0161ilo kontakt), lebo ich partnerka so mnou mala probl\u00e9m, respekt\u00edve sa b\u00e1li, \u017ee by ten probl\u00e9m mohla ma\u0165. To je tragikomick\u00e9 zvl\u00e1\u0161\u0165 v pr\u00edpadoch, kedy som jeho poznala sk\u00f4r, ne\u017e sa dal dohromady s \u0148ou. Pre\u010do len niekto ver\u00ed tomu, \u017ee mu\u017e, \u010do sa nesna\u017e\u00ed chopi\u0165 pr\u00edle\u017eitosti ako nezadan\u00fd, sa jej zrazu bude chcie\u0165 chopi\u0165, ke\u010f niekoho u\u017e m\u00e1?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Strach z nevery je absurdn\u00fd aj z \u010fal\u0161ieho d\u00f4vodu \u2013 a to jest, \u017ee nevera sa predsa d\u00e1 sp\u00e1cha\u0165 aj s osobou rovnak\u00e9ho pohlavia. Sch\u00e9ma \u2013 s rovnak\u00fdm pohlav\u00edm sa stret\u00e1vaj ko\u013eko chce\u0161, ale s opa\u010dn\u00fdm sa nesmie\u0161 \u2013 je viac ne\u017e trochu podivn\u00e1. Pre\u010do \u013eudia do svojej paranoje nezah\u0155\u0148aj\u00fa aj obavu, \u017ee ich partner je skryt\u00fd homosexu\u00e1l \u010di bisexu\u00e1l? Vy skr\u00e1tka mus\u00edte toho svojho\/svoju pozna\u0165 dostato\u010dne na to, aby ste mu verili, \u017ee v\u00e1s nikdy nepodvedie, ak nechcete str\u00e1vi\u0165 zvy\u0161ok \u010dasu po jeho boku v u\u017eieran\u00ed sa nere\u00e1lnymi scen\u00e1rmi.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">A e\u0161te jedna inform\u00e1cia pre chorobn\u00fdch \u017eiarlivcov a \u017eiarlivky (aj ke\u010f viem, \u017ee v\u00e1s ni\u010d nepresved\u010d\u00ed, to len pre \u00faplnos\u0165). Mo\u017eno ste na z\u00e1klade \u010dervenej kni\u017enice (tj. fantasy literat\u00fary) \u010di pokleskov kinematografie do\u0161li k z\u00e1veru, \u017ee akon\u00e1hle nech\u00e1te v\u00e1\u0161ho drah\u00e9ho\/drah\u00fa s ich kamar\u00e1tkou\/kamar\u00e1tom osamote, za\u010dn\u00fa sa dia\u0165 veci. Nu\u017e, moje sk\u00fasenosti \u017eeny, ktor\u00e1 sa ocitla s rozli\u010dn\u00fdmi kamar\u00e1tmi osamote mnohokr\u00e1t, tomu \u00faplne odporuj\u00fa. Nikto na m\u0148a nikdy ni\u010d nesk\u00fa\u0161al. A to sme boli s kamar\u00e1tom osamote v izbe. Osamote v celej budove. Osamote v posteli&#8230;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Kto m\u00e1 dlhodob\u00e9ho kamar\u00e1ta \u010di kamar\u00e1tku, zrejme pozn\u00e1 aj \u010fal\u0161\u00ed probl\u00e9m \u2013 a to, \u017ee okolie ich viac \u010di menej v\u00e1\u017ene ozna\u010dovalo za p\u00e1r. \u010co je mrzut\u00e9 hlavne v pr\u00edpadoch, ak si doty\u010dn\u00ed partnerov h\u013eadali, a vinou ne\u0161kodn\u00e9ho kamar\u00e1tstva vyzerali ako zadan\u00ed, \u010d\u00edm potenci\u00e1lnych n\u00e1padn\u00edkov odradili. Ale aj bez toho mne osobne nikdy nebolo pr\u00edjemn\u00e9, ke\u010f pova\u017eovali za m\u00f4jho partnera jedn\u00e9ho z mojich kamar\u00e1tov.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">E\u0161te\u017ee m\u00e1me mu\u017eov aj \u017eeny, \u010do v tieto kamar\u00e1tstva veria. 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Na jednej strane st\u00e1li odporcovia, v\u017edy mu\u017ei, ktor\u00ed sa du\u0161ovali, \u017ee nie. Na druhej strane argumentovali najm\u00e4 \u017eeny, \u017ee predsa ony u\u017e dobr\u00fdch kamar\u00e1tov dlh\u00e9 roky<span class=\"more-excerpt\"><a class=\"more-excerpt-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.adhara.sk\/?page_id=4448\"> (pokra&#269;ova&#357; v &#269;&iacute;tan&iacute;&#8230;)  <\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"parent":2279,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","template":"","meta":{"footnotes":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.adhara.sk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/4448"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.adhara.sk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.adhara.sk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.adhara.sk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.adhara.sk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=4448"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/www.adhara.sk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/4448\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4992,"href":"https:\/\/www.adhara.sk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/4448\/revisions\/4992"}],"up":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.adhara.sk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/2279"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.adhara.sk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=4448"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}